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Definition of edit warring

Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.

Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)

An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

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User:Battles 55 reported by User:Cinemaandpolitics (Result: Blocked one week)

Previous version reverted to: [1]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [6]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [7]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [8]

Comments:

Fourth revert happened shortly after 24h, inside 48h period. I am reporting now since the user does not engage in talk page at all.  Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 10:40, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is just one of many instances of edit warring on the page which had previously been vandalized by IPs. I have been requesting protection for this page for several days but no action has been taken. Borgenland (talk) 10:54, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also noting this openly POV and WP:NOTHERE edit of theirs: [9]. Borgenland (talk) 17:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked – for a period of one week Not a CTOPS block, not this time, but they are definitely aware of it, and this has been a long time coming. Daniel Case (talk) 19:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Gymrat16 reported by User:Brotherbenz (Result: Fully protected for three days)

Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_rink

User being reported: Gymrat16 (talk · contribs)

Previous version reverted to: [10]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

[[11]

[12]

[13]

[14]

[15]

[16]

[17]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [18]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [19]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [20]

Comments:

I have tried multiple times to get a consensus on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ice_hockey_rink page, and no effort. Keeps reverting any changes I make, to the "standards" he set for a ice hockey rink photo. I've reported before, but it wasn't 4 times. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, deleted the first report of this, and the ANEW notice on his user page. Brotherbenz (talk) 16:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keeps reverting the ANEW notice on his talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gymrat16 Brotherbenz (talk) 16:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i am trying to negotiate with you look at your talk page Gymrat16 (talk) 16:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page protected Three days full. Talk page discussion can get a lot farther when you're not able to go back to the article and revert to your preferred version. Daniel Case (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Robert92107 reported by User:Jasper Deng (Result: Warned)

User being reported: Robert92107 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

14:04, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "Phase 2 is not proposed, but authorized with no detailed route or funding yet"
00:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1252079490 by DracaenaGuianensis (talk) Prop 1A authorized Phase 2, but did not fund it"
23:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC) "clarified status of Phase 2 in intro"
13:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC) "changed "proposed" to "authorized"; see discussion in Talk for a full description of the need for this
16:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC) "factual correction in PP1, planned -> proposed; see Talk for discussion; there has actually been prelim planning done on this, which is beyond mere proposing""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

05:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC) "/* October 2024 */ re"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

19:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC) "/* Future versus Proposed */re"

Comments:

Though not strictly violating 3RR, this user is clearly showing intent to continue reverting (e.g. explicitly saying they'd go against consensus, rejecting the 3RR warning) and has been edit warring in their preferred wording for quite some time now. They are discussing but also not stopping their editing of the article itself, so I'm requesting a partial block from editing the article. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing by Robert92107 too, where the user has refused to engage. Jasper Deng (talk) 19:40, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Result: User:Robert92107 is warned for edit warring. They may be blocked if they revert the article again without getting a prior consensus for their change on the article talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 14:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:182.4.100.194 reported by User:Mhorg (Result:Semi)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]

Comments:

I cannot warn the user because he constantly changes the IP to circumvent the WP:3RR. Mhorg (talk) 20:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Page semiprotected two weeks by User:Ymblanter. EdJohnston (talk) 14:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zombie girl509 reported by User:Asdfghjkl38 (Result: Both warned)

Previous version reverted to: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melissa_McBride&oldid=1250709869

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zombie_girl509

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Melissa_McBride

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zombie_girl509#Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring_warning

Comments:

Result: Both User:Zombie girl509 and User:Asdfghjkl38 are warned for edit warring. Either may be blocked if they revert the article again without getting a prior consensus for their change on the article talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 15:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Xaltrebor01 reported by User:Psychologist Guy (Result: EC protection)

Previous version reverted to: [28]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [33], [34], [35].

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [36]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [37]

Comments:

User is adding nonsensical opinions to the short description of the macrobiotic diet article including [38] "Harvard Medical School empirically, substantiated Alternative Holistic diet". Judging by their editing history, this is likely a WP:NOTHERE account. Psychologist Guy (talk) 00:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Page EC protected for one month due to promotional editing. Both sides are urged to discuss on the article talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 15:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Lunarwriter reported by User:Watercheetah99 (Result: 48 hours)

Previous version reverted to: [39]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [51]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [52]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [53]

Comments:

Blocked – User:Lunarwriter 48 hours for edit warring. User:ObiWali is also risking a block the next time they edit the article unless they obtain a prior consensus for their change on the article talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 04:24, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you greatly. — Watercheetah99 (talk) 04:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Stosseled reported by User:Nswix (Result: Blocked 31 hours)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: User talk:Stosseled

Comments:
Despite long-standing consensus within the MMA project to use the website Sherdog as the source of fight endings (it's reference 151 at the bottom of the section), for precisely the reason that various media organizations interpret bout endings differently and changing from one source to another results in a lot of edit warring. This system has worked well, but seemingly not well enough for this user, who knows they're right and everyone else is wrong. I invited them to start a conversation on the project talk page, which they did, but they continue to revert the edit from the neutral version until we reach a consensus (again) Nswix (talk) 04:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A long-standing consensus must be amended if and when it results in blatantly incorrect information that runs afoul of all other sources and common sense being routinely published, and vandals such as yourself reverting all edits that attempt to rectify the misinformation.

When you sarcastically and rudely say "[this user(me)] knows they're right and everyone else is wrong" you are not being honest because you know very well--as I've mentioned it countless times by now--that ALL other sources--all media, independent governmental bodies, all fight organizations, all grappling outlets etc--without any exceptions agree with me and disagree with Sherdog in these instances. You can not 'brabo choke' an unclothed opponent. That's undisputable.

Additionally I take issue with calling a version with blatant misinformation "neutral" unless it's being used in some Wiki-specific technical term manner.

If and when all other sources (literally all other sources!) disagree with Sherdog it is obvious where the problem lies - as is the case here. No other source agrees that this is even possible (to brabo choke an unclothed opponent) nor that these specific instances have been brabo chokes (as they are impossible in these circumstances and there is an undisputed name for these chokes in the fighting community (D'Arce choke)).

P.S. I've attempted to reference every single type of reputable source there is in these matters (who all agree bar the one some supposed guidelines supposedly insist on) and none have been deemed good enough by this clique of editors who lack the experience to even realize that they're causing blatantly obvious misinformation to be the status quo. Stosseled (talk) 05:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Stosseled: The way to amend a consensus is to get a new one through discussion, not edit warring. Being right or believing you're right does not confer you the right to edit war.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think a check user might be of benefit here, as Stosseled's first edit for 18 months, and second in 2 years, was to come to my talk page. I suspect this is Justin.NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:18, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the ES, and this exact line of argument, I actually think it's this editor. NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jasper. I give up. It's sad that the Wiki can be so clique-y and make it impossible for anyone to correct misinformation.

Never mind the tens of thousands of sources proving me right. It's of the utmost importance to only use Sherdog even though Sherdog disagrees with all news media, independent governmental bodies regulating these sports, all the sports organizations, the organizers, and so on in these instances.. and even though no reputable grappling outlets agree with them.

It's so much more important that this clique of editors don't have to think and evaluate a source's reliability and conformity.

Bye-bye NEDOCHAN, Cassiopeia, and Nspwifdfb, have fun.

P.S. NEDO the reason for that is because I was here in good faith, went through the edit logs to figure out what genius of grappling knowledge edited D'Arce to 'brabo choke' for a no-gi MMA fight, to tell them why it's silly and ask them to change it back wherever else they might have done this silly thing of putting the method of victory in a no-gi MMA fight to 'brabo choke'. I worry for you if your mind immediately starts coming up with conspiracies that I'm some ghost from the past.

P.P.S Let me remind you all again that these are the guidelines - they say nothing of Sherdog except that they "may be useful" like the official website:

"In the column Method, do not use your personal interpretation of a fight result in the record. Using a reliable source is important. The official website or Sherdog may be useful."

Hiding some secret consensus somewhere (I still don't even know where) and relying on it to bash other users fighting misinformation is absolutely hilarious behavior. Stosseled (talk) 15:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked – for a period of 31 hours EvergreenFir (talk) 15:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:TheLawMan85 reported by User:JoshuaJ28 (Result: )

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: User talk:TheLawMan85

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [58]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [59]

Comments:

You literally reverted me 3 times on the Pennsylvania page today, genius. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLawMan85 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:3RR says "more than 3 reverts in 24 hours" which you did. And please stop your personal attacks. Wikipedia:No personal attacks JoshuaJ28 (talk) 17:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP editors reported by User:Bri (Result:Semi)

Page in dispute: C/2023 A3 (Tsuchinshan–ATLAS) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

103.121.62.117 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
131.251.10.14 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
204.15.43.3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

Two or more anon editors (and possible block evasion by a registered account that was blocked due to actions on the same page) are squabbling over inclusion of a gallery, while there is an open discussion on the talkpage. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Page semiprotected one month. EdJohnston (talk) 17:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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